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The Way Out · Mar 13, 2008, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by Fried Tech

please, tell me where in the dictionary it says conveient and better are synonyms. I think you are getting your definitions mixed bud.

con·ven·ient :–adjective
1. suitable or agreeable to the needs or purpose; well-suited with respect to facility or ease in use; favorable, easy, or comfortable for use.
2. at hand; easily accessible: Their house is convenient to all transportation.
3. Obsolete. fitting; suitable

bet·ter1: –adjective
1. of superior quality or excellence: a better coat; a better speech.
2. morally superior; more virtuous

there ya go. ill give you some time to let that process

You haughty little prick, you know how to look up words in the dictionary?

/applause

Your reply suggesting that I "go and try" was dripping with Elitism, and assumed that I was globally condemning a caster sword and shield and ignorant to the fact that they do have their utility. They are for looks (99% percent of the time, unless you have a specific goal around them, like faster attack rate or longer enchants), and are not generally good for much outside of solo builds and casting longer enchantments, which you can still do with a focus and scepter or staff (for that matter).

I would also like to point out that your use of the word convenient was a passive attempt at sarcasm. I am not trying to demean your intelligence or physical stature irl... which I could do and would prove nothing of me (outside of showing the world that I am good at typing and witty remarks).

You have a tendency to necro post, as I look at your previous posts. Sad....

Fried Tech · Mar 13, 2008, 06:24 PM // 18:24

wow. i must have hit a nerve by using the word convenient. I'm sorry. When I said that I meant nothing more than "go try it for yourself".
Second, if you are going to misquote me then I will correct you.

And I don't know what necro post means... could you find that in the dictionary for me?

The Way Out · Mar 13, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by Fried Tech

then why would he keep posting

Because I came here to be helpful. Giving people misinformation, or too little information, detracts from the post and make it turn to a topic you want to get in (necrotic poster that you are). Brining up close ele AoE was fine, however, demeaning what I said and suggesting that I go and try this was a failed attempt at proving your seeming superiority. You failed. Then you attempted again to go prove how dumb I am by looking up words in a dictionary and posting them (I bet, patiently waiting for applause from other members here, nub), it didn't happen, and you again failed at wit.

Now I am left to berate you for the necro you are. The OP wants to know which is better. Why did you make things about you?

Fried Tech · Mar 13, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

I think you managed to take every single one of my posts out of context. Guru is here for the exchange of information between players. I posted one thing, you came back with another, and so on and so forth.
When I said try it, I meant just that.
When I posted from the dictionary, it was because you misquoted me.
As far as I'm concerned we are the only 2 people left on this thread. Having a discussion, heated as you may have made it, on your end anyway. If you think I trying to sound superior, your wrong. If you think I was trying to make this about me, your wrong. And I'll leave it at that.

The Way Out · Mar 13, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by Fried Tech

you go ahead and try to run a close aoe ele build with a wand or staff, then try it with a melee weapon. Let me know which is more convenient.

This is your quote right? Or have I changed it?

I should have changed it to the following, and maybe then none of the supposed "heated" arguments would have ensued.

"I don't agree with a 40/40 always being the right thing. I use a caster sword and shield when I run a close AoE ele build because I am able to maintain Obi Flesh, Stone Striker, and Kinetic Armor for longer"...

But I misquoted you...

Fried Tech · Mar 13, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

See, now your giving me english lessons.

Haven't we all learn a lot today

but seriously. I get your point, and I think you got mine, although in a roundabout way.

And its time for me to get off work. See you all tomorrow.

I Angra I · Mar 13, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

40/40 set for when you're casting.

Sword/shield set for when you're taking damage/kiting/not casting stuff.

The end.

IslandHermet · Mar 13, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

wowser, been reading the threads that fried and way out are going at it like dogs, Hate to say it tho, you are attacking fried and he is kickin your arse, you have thrown out names and insults and yet I read none from frieds posts.

lets keep this civil.

but back to the OP

40/40 for casting most of the time
high energy set for when things start to get hairy on your ebar
weapon/shield (you will want the armor mods with these)

Fried Tech · Mar 13, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

argument is over and question is answered i think its ok to close now. MODs?

Bohya · Mar 13, 2008, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Hope this doesn't get closed. This is only my second thread

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No real need to keep posting anyway. I'm fine with a wand/focus.

Kattar · Mar 13, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

It's not your fault if a thread gets closed, nor do you get penalized for people's ridiculous actions in a thread you created.

So don't worry.

IslandHermet · Mar 13, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54

the mods close a thread once the a answer for the question is found (or a argument is to out of hand) and I think you have the answer you want right? if not keep askin for more info.

Bohya · Mar 13, 2008, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

the mods close a thread once the a answer for the question is found (or a argument is to out of hand) and I think you have the answer you want right? if not keep askin for more info.

More info! More info! More info!

palladia · Mar 14, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

Dumb question...If I were to carry a shield and sword, and I have not the skills to satisfy the requirements on the shield and sword (e.g. a 9-STR requirement on shield, and 10-req on swordsmanship), are they still useful?

I was told to carry a shield for an Ursan build. But if I get no armor benefits out of it (because I don't satisfy the requirement), what good is it?

Randvek · Mar 14, 2008, 03:32 AM // 03:32

I find it funny that so many people who think they know a lot about this game still talk about 40/40 sets, when in reality they are 36/32/4 sets.

Statistics ftw?

Velise_Snowtorm · Mar 14, 2008, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by palladia

I was told to carry a shield for an Ursan build. But if I get no armor benefits out of it (because I don't satisfy the requirement), what good is it?

If you don't meet the req of the shield, you still get +8 armor (half of the max on it). That's why Ursans (and casters) carry shields, for the extra +8 armor.

Though if you Ursan, you'll probably want to take a Warrior or Paragon secondary and meet the req of the shield for the full amount of armor. I don't Ursan myself, but I assume that's what they do- someone can correct me if I'm wrong on Ursan setups.

The Way Out · Mar 14, 2008, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

wowser, been reading the threads that fried and way out are going at it like dogs, Hate to say it tho, you are attacking fried and he is kickin your arse, you have thrown out names and insults and yet I read none from frieds posts.

lets keep this civil.

but back to the OP

40/40 for casting most of the time
high energy set for when things start to get hairy on your ebar
weapon/shield (you will want the armor mods with these)

It's not a contest for me...

He is clearly wrong by misleading people with the introduction of a solo ele build that isn't used in average pve or pvp.

I've been a bit informative, even went as far as to describe his build when he wouldn't and why his weapon set reference would work there...

And then you come in with pom poms and min skirt, scream for someone to what??? win in a forum conversation?

40/40 set trumps all...

Big trick is to stay out of aggro... I assume most of you understand that computer AI is limited

IslandHermet · Mar 14, 2008, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Way Out

It's not a contest for me...

He is clearly wrong by misleading people with the introduction of a solo ele build that isn't used in average pve or pvp.

I've been a bit informative, even went as far as to describe his build when he wouldn't and why his weapon set reference would work there...

And then you come in with pom poms and min skirt, scream for someone to what??? win in a forum conversation?

40/40 set trumps all...

Big trick is to stay out of aggro... I assume most of you understand that computer AI is limited

I see no mention of a SOLO build in frieds post I see him talking about a shockwave-aftershock Close up AoE build (which is not a solo build) so you are misleading people with false information about the mans post, you are the one saying he is talking about a obi tank, and his post is talking about the shockwave build.....

and again you throw insults into your post (when you do this you lose all credibility and only make yourself look bad) even if this is a forum.

No insults intended (but lets try to play nice)

IslandHermet · Mar 14, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by palladia

Dumb question...If I were to carry a shield and sword, and I have not the skills to satisfy the requirements on the shield and sword (e.g. a 9-STR requirement on shield, and 10-req on swordsmanship), are they still useful?

I was told to carry a shield for an Ursan build. But if I get no armor benefits out of it (because I don't satisfy the requirement), what good is it?

you get a base armor boost with the shield even if you do not reach the req limit.

I am not sure (its early and im still half asleep) but it is 8 base armor? some one correct this if I,m off.

Fried Tech · Mar 14, 2008, 02:06 PM // 14:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Way Out

It's not a contest for me...

He is clearly wrong by misleading people with the introduction of a solo ele build that isn't used in average pve or pvp.

I've been a bit informative, even went as far as to describe his build when he wouldn't and why his weapon set reference would work there...

And then you come in with pom poms and min skirt, scream for someone to what??? win in a forum conversation?

40/40 set trumps all...

Big trick is to stay out of aggro... I assume most of you understand that computer AI is limited

dude. you say it isnt a contest for you but you keep saying how your right. your more informative, and you keep +1 when I am only trying to get a point across

My point the entire time was that in certain situations the 40/40 set is not the best. For the build that the OP posted, yes it is tops. For any sort of up close build it is not tops. If you are casting melee range skills why would you want to be out of agro? You keep saying a solo build. How is my example : shockwave, aftershock, etc. a solo build? No where in there did I mention stonestriker or obi flesh., or any defensive skill. You took my example and turned it into the cookie cutter solo build that you thought it should be. Another example where melee sets would be better is anytime you are using ursan blessing. Or, just about any E/A build, or fire builds with inferno, lava font,ride the lightning, etc.

Finally, before you start with the, "your condasending, and just want to feel like you have a big e-peen" bull, remember that 90% of everything is relative. Do you think everyone is out to get you? Do you have self esteem issues? Do you want people to come and look at your post for some /applause, Mr. Muscle Avatar?

Mar 13, 2008, 06:24 PM // 18:24	#22
Fried Tech Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: [Yeti] Profession: E/	wow. i must have hit a nerve by using the word convenient. I'm sorry. When I said that I meant nothing more than "go try it for yourself". Second, if you are going to misquote me then I will correct you. And I don't know what necro post means... could you find that in the dictionary for me? Last edited by Fried Tech; Mar 13, 2008 at 06:30 PM // 18:30..

Mar 13, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41	#28
IslandHermet Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007	wowser, been reading the threads that fried and way out are going at it like dogs, Hate to say it tho, you are attacking fried and he is kickin your arse, you have thrown out names and insults and yet I read none from frieds posts. lets keep this civil. but back to the OP 40/40 for casting most of the time high energy set for when things start to get hairy on your ebar weapon/shield (you will want the armor mods with these) Last edited by IslandHermet; Mar 13, 2008 at 07:51 PM // 19:51..

Mar 13, 2008, 07:51 PM // 19:51	#30
Bohya Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Vabbi Guild: Farming Crewuk [fcuk] Profession: D/	Hope this doesn't get closed. This is only my second thread. No real need to keep posting anyway. I'm fine with a wand/focus.

Mar 13, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57	#24
Fried Tech Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: [Yeti] Profession: E/	I think you managed to take every single one of my posts out of context. Guru is here for the exchange of information between players. I posted one thing, you came back with another, and so on and so forth. When I said try it, I meant just that. When I posted from the dictionary, it was because you misquoted me. As far as I'm concerned we are the only 2 people left on this thread. Having a discussion, heated as you may have made it, on your end anyway. If you think I trying to sound superior, your wrong. If you think I was trying to make this about me, your wrong. And I'll leave it at that.

Mar 13, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#26
Fried Tech Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: [Yeti] Profession: E/	See, now your giving me english lessons. Haven't we all learn a lot today but seriously. I get your point, and I think you got mine, although in a roundabout way. And its time for me to get off work. See you all tomorrow.

Mar 13, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40	#27
I Angra I Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Napa, CA Guild: Inadequately Equipped [GeAr] Profession: R/N	40/40 set for when you're casting. Sword/shield set for when you're taking damage/kiting/not casting stuff. The end.

Mar 13, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44	#29
Fried Tech Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: [Yeti] Profession: E/	argument is over and question is answered i think its ok to close now. MODs?

Mar 13, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53	#31
Kattar EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: SMS (lolgw2placeholder) Profession: Me/	It's not your fault if a thread gets closed, nor do you get penalized for people's ridiculous actions in a thread you created. So don't worry.

Mar 13, 2008, 07:54 PM // 19:54	#32
IslandHermet Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007	the mods close a thread once the a answer for the question is found (or a argument is to out of hand) and I think you have the answer you want right? if not keep askin for more info.

Mar 14, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27	#34
palladia Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2007	Dumb question...If I were to carry a shield and sword, and I have not the skills to satisfy the requirements on the shield and sword (e.g. a 9-STR requirement on shield, and 10-req on swordsmanship), are they still useful? I was told to carry a shield for an Ursan build. But if I get no armor benefits out of it (because I don't satisfy the requirement), what good is it?

Mar 14, 2008, 03:32 AM // 03:32	#35
Randvek Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: Rise From the Ashes [phnx] Profession: W/	I find it funny that so many people who think they know a lot about this game still talk about 40/40 sets, when in reality they are 36/32/4 sets. Statistics ftw?